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From Tess Newton Cain on A wrap up of the 48th Pacific Island Forum Leaders meeting
Looking forward to seeing your reports from the Forum leaders' meeting next year, I might even tag along!
From Terence Wood on Improving elections in PNG
Hi Paul,
Thanks for your comment.
I don't think we're debating a totally unbelievable dream. I agree there are many problems, but there are also many, many people within PNG who would like positive change, and many trying to bring it. Recall that there was a time that politics in most OECD countries was heavily clientelist and very corrupt. Change is possible, I think.
I also think incremental improvements are useful, that's how most change occurs. Systems work or fail to varying degrees. Indeed, electoral issues varied by degree around PNG in the last election. If PNG's elections are to improve it will be slowly over time. That said, I agree with you a good roll is a sina qua non for electoral quality. I also agree that the absence of good census data (as well as HIES and DHS data) is a real issue for just about everything. Data are a problem in most parts of the Pacific. Questions need to be asked about why this remains an ongoing issue region-wide.
With respect to your question about who should do the pushing for better election: I think most will have to come from within. I think that's the source of almost all transformation. As I said above, while I share your appreciation of the problems, I am also impressed by the commitment to positive change within PNG.
Like you, I think Australia has a role to play, although I don't think it will be the main driver. Like you, I wish Australia's politicians were performing better in this area though. My broader comments on what I think Australia should do are <a href="https://devpolicy.org/what-can-australia-help-with-elections-png-20170915/">here</a>.
Terence
From Stefan Armbrtuster on A wrap up of the 48th Pacific Island Forum Leaders meeting
Looking forward to lodging my journalist visa application for next year. 🙂
From Obed Batia on Some challenges for voters in PNG’s 2017 general election
Bal thanks for sharing your informative analyses on the corrupt practice that is usually being ignored to be addressed for improvement by our representatives.
What you addressed in paragraph six about 'fake candidates' did really caught my attention. Fake candidates tend to regard elections as an occasion to have access to obtain money and resources from sponsors just by practicing corrupt practices in the election. These intentions portray an image of a self-centered power hungry candidate. The system deprives eligible voters to exercise their constitutional rights to choose their leaders because there's a great probability that split voting will occur and furthermore, it creates conflicts within communities just as you've mentioned.
I'm just curious about this issue so here's a question. How can we minimize this system of 'fake candidates? Is LPV system the root of this issue or is it our self-centered approaches?
From Wesley Morgan on A wrap up of the 48th Pacific Island Forum Leaders meeting
Great analysis of a busy Forum. My only quibble would be with this line: "Climate change was still prominent, but in terms agreeable to all." There was palpable concern about the Australian governments plans to subsidise new coal mines and coal-fired power plants. And it wasn't only Tuvalu. See <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyzMK1vapvM" rel="nofollow">this abc report</a> for example.
From Paul Oates on Improving elections in PNG
Hi Terence,
your comment in the above article says it all: "But PNG’s political dynamics mean politicians won’t focus on resourcing national electoral infrastructure unless they’re pushed."
So who exactly could or should do the 'pushing' and what will galvanize this to happen? Certainly not any succinct and insightful comment from our PM or Foreign Minister who were significantly silent over the rorting and corrupt practices reported by many during the general election. Why for instance, was the PM declared a winner before the final results of all the seats were known?
As there is now another five years to cement those in control in place and they're very happy with the results of the election 'Tenkyu tumas', so why change?
'Maski, larim istap', could well be echoing around PNG parliament's corridors power for the foreseeable future when the question about resourcing the Electoral Commission might possibly come up.
If the Census books are now a creative nonsense and no one really knows who is on the electoral roll, how can there ever be any real accountability or responsibility? Either you have a system that works or you don't. Axiomatically, there can be no half measures.
Aren't we now really debating a totally unbelievable dream?
From Tess Newton Cain on A wrap up of the 48th Pacific Island Forum Leaders meeting
Thanks for your comment Edie, it goes to the issue that we raise here (and have discussed elsewhere) - that the diversity of the region makes it challenging to identify issues that everyone considers to be of equal importance. Also, we would note that the PM of Tuvalu's concern was with the influence of 'big countries' which he appears to consider disproportionate - Palau, FSM & RMI are many things, big isn't one of them.
From Edie Jones on A wrap up of the 48th Pacific Island Forum Leaders meeting
Let's remember that North Korea is threatening Guam, and hence the northern states of Palau, FSM and RMI. This is certainly an issue they feel keenly, given they still deal with the impact of past nuclear testing.
From Terence Wood on Improving elections in PNG
Hi John,
Thanks for a good comment. Like you I don't think biometric voting will make any difference. Like you I don't think the electoral system played a major role in most of the issues that occurred in 2017 (though Bal has an interesting point about vote buying).
I agree with your 5 points too (although I think there are many other problems in addition to these 5). My focus is slightly different though: I'm looking at feasible changes that might help reduce some of the issues. Transparency might reduce the effects of bribery for example.
The one area where I disagree with you is with respect to whether these are uniquely Melanesian problems. All of the problems we've discussed can be found in many parts of the world, and can also be found in the history of countries--like the UK--that currently run quite good elections. I think the issues are more universal and are to do with power, wealth and human nature. As a consequence I think the solutions tend to be associated with placing effective checks in the formal and informal electoral system.
I'd also add that there's a lot of variation in electoral quality across and within the different countries of Melanesia. I think there's a lot to be learnt from why this occurs.
Thanks again for an interesting, thought-provoking comment.
Terence
From John Domyal on Improving elections in PNG
Thanks Terence
I would still argued that problems in PNG election is not to do with election process like LPV or FPTP systems or one day polling or biometric registration. Its none of these and others that people who were not on the ground seeing the campaign and polling making suggestions; are more of a common sense of understanding what supposed to be right as free and fair election and what it is not. We cannot blame the election systems and regulations, it is a matter of personality and embedded in the Melanesian way of living that needs to change; you need to explore more to understand not by looking from the fringes of what you read and saw in the media.
You referred to fixing the fundamentals first, what are you referring to: For me as a man on the ground, addressing fundamental issues are; (1) one person one vote, (2) no votes buying, (3) no undue influence on voters, (4) minimize localized campaign and voting (5) bribery to persons directly involved in the local campaigns, pollings and countings..etc. These issues exist during FPTP system and even under LPV, nothing changed but today it is getting worse into the formal system and people in authorities tend to nurtured that. How are we going to improve on that is the question and it does not require a new set of system or laws, just a simple change on attitudes and character is the solution.
We must also not forget that the fundamental issues discussed above is embedded into the way Melanesians conduct their lives-way of living, eg. Localized campaign and polling for a candidate, you cannot changes it, it was there in FPTP system and still trailing in LPV system.
What was not seen before and seen today is the use of huge amount of cash by candidates in election (apart from the cost of campaign, polling and counting) that ends up in the hands of voters, election officials and those in the system overseeing the election. Do you see anything wrong with that, its part of Melanesian way of sharing and inducing others to maximize ones chances over the others, however it is seen as the intent of manipulating the outcome of election. That is our concern as it brings a lot of chaos. For example, currently the problems in SHP, you go down further you will see exactly what is described here.
My views on the ground seeing the last seven past PNG elections, we just need people to understand what is public/common thing from private attributes, and being a politician or getting one to be a politician is a seasonal event and not a career job or not design for a particular ethnic group or person. The intrinsic value of Melanesian way that seems to be embedded into the Western democratic system of election needs to be re-looked at and some local options would hold key to some solutions.
From Terence Wood on Improving elections in PNG
Thanks Bal, that's a really interesting point. My sense is that their are pros and cons associated with LPV. You highlight an important drawback. Another one, in my opinion, is that LPV makes the counting process much more complex and time consuming. I definitely support your idea of looking into LPV more. Terence
From Stephen Howes on What’s the matter with elections in PNG?